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What the other side is saying: Columbia

Zach Klitzman

I'm going to try a new feature on The Buzz this week. Each Monday I'll try to find stories on the football game from the past weekend written by the opposing team's student newspaper (and in the case of the more rural schools the local professional papers as well). Obviously I'm a few days behind, but with Fall Break at Penn earlier this week, The DP only published our own stories today so I didn't think of this idea until now. So sorry the Columbia Spectator stories are a few days old.

First is the standard recap. Interestingly, while we refer to the Lions quarterback as M. A. Olawale, The Spectator uses his first name, Millicent. Also, Lou Miller led the Columbia defense with 10 tackles, 2.5 sacks, and five tackles for a loss, and earned the inaugural John Toner Columbia Football Homecoming Player of the Game award for his efforts.

They also have a sidebar on turnovers, which is similar to my column that ran today, though of course without opinion. (There was no column.)

In addition, since it's already Wednesday, The Spectator has their equivalent of an Ivy notebook. They focus on the fact that just three Ivy teams won, including Penn and Brown who beat League foes Columbia and Princeton, respectively. Of note, it also mentions that Princeton star linebacker Scott Britton suffered a knee injury in the loss and probably will miss the rest of the season. That marks the second Tigers standout -- after running back Jordan Culbreath -- to suffere a season-ending injury.

This is the year for Columbia

Zach Klitzman

At least according to this Spectator column.

The author does make some good points, specifically that the offense is senior-laden. So's the defense. In fact except for the special teams unit -- "the kicker can’t make PATs and the punter had an 11-yard punt against Princeton" -- the team appears to be the strongest in the Norries Wilson era. Add in a home schedule that includes games against four of the top five Ivy teams, and the author thinks Columbia can stay in contention until the last week, if not win the whole thing.

In short, if the hapless Ivy squad doesn't breakthrough this year and at least compete for its first Ivy title since a split championship in 1961 then Wilson should probably be fired. At least according to the author.

That same year the Lions last won some hardware, they also shut out an Ivy opponent on the road (Yale). The next time the Lions accomplished that feat? This past Saturday at Princeton, winning 38-0. So clearly Columbia is capable of both putting points on the board and shutting down an opponent's offense during Ivy games.

So how does this affect Penn (which the column describes as the only Ivy team that "has good kickers")? The Quakers can't waltz into Baker Field a week from Saturday and expect to win big, like the 2007 59-28 victory. Just last year at Franklin Field it was 15-10. And as commenter "'96" said on Neil's column from Monday, "We've got a test in two weeks with an improved Lions squad in NY (their homecoming) that will not be a gimme. They've got a huge offensive line to complement Olawale. Lose that one, and the rest of the season becomes academic."

At the least the game on the 17th should be competitive. And maybe by the end Roar Lions Roar will finally have something to um roar about.

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In other football news, The Inquirer is saying sophomore John Hurley will start at quarterback for Penn Saturday versus Bucknell (HT SPL twitter). When Eli asked some questions for my football notebook, Lyle Marsh told him "John Hurley is the starting quarterback right now." However, Bagnoli did say it wasn't completely settled, so hence my notebook says it's still up in the air. My feeling is that Hurley is slated to start, but Bagnoli would prefer Olson if he improves his knee by then. At the least, I'd be quite surprised if Olson still doesn't see a decent amount of action.

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In personal news, I'm sorry I haven't been able to contribute that much in the past couple of weeks on The Buzz (outside of comments). I've been much busier than in past semesters, so hence the lack of posts. But after Noah posted at 6 a.m. last night, I thought, hey why can't I do the same?

Kevin Egee’s YouTube moment disappears

Andrew Scurria

The Penn basketball team's 51-50 win at Columbia on March 7 was a great memory in a season mostly full of bad ones. The Quakers spent most of the night playing catchup and were down a pair with 1.9 ticks left, but senior captain Kevin Egee drilled an impossible three-pointer off a flawless inbounds play to snatch the game away. It wasn't being televised, but someone in the crowd that night had a camera rolling and later posted a grainy clip of the final play on YouTube, where Egee's moment could live on forever.

Or perhaps not. The video has since been removed at the request of Columbia's Athletics Department. See for yourself: The original link, which had been posted on The Buzz, now just gives a message reading "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Columbia University Athletics." So far as I can tell, there are no other versions of it floating around.

What childishness. Columbia obviously has the right to decide where and how recordings of its teams' games appear online, but was removing that video from YouTube really necessary? Was Columbia losing any money because it was there? Was there an important precedent at stake? Did Columbia have to deny fans, recruits and casual observers -- not to mention Egee's family and Egee himself -- the chance to relive that great moment online?

The answer is obvious. Which might explain why there are plenty of other Ivy League basketball clips on YouTube -- some from games that were broadcast, some from games that were not. Those clips have stayed there for years, unmolested. Why this one was judged to be so damaging, I don't know.

If athletic administrators want to spend their man-hours policing YouTube, that's their right. But erasing the memory of Egee's shot -- a game-winning, Columbia-beating shot -- just reeks of sour grapes.

Outphysicaled

Andrew Todres

Outphysicaled is probably my least favorite word -- if you want to call it that -- in the sports interview lexicon, and thankfully a word that Glen Miller chose to avoid in last night's press conference. But the word might be the best way to describe Penn's performance against Columbia. Miller boiled it down to toughness, stating plainly that Penn just wasn't tough enough to win the game.

And that assessment is dead on. The Quakers could not thwart the Lions inside presence, allowing Jason Miller to net a career-high 21 points. Loose balls and long rebounds always seemed to find their way to a baby blue jersey, and wherever the Quakers were trying to go on offense, Columbia was always a step ahead of them. The Lions' physical play helped prevent Penn's ball screens at the top of the key and knock Penn out of its rhythm. With time, Zack Rosen and the Quakers tried to make too much happen instead of waiting for a play to develop, leading to turnovers and missed opportunities.

As I hinted Thursday, Columbia isn't half bad this year. In fact, though it's hard to believe, the Lions might be one of the best teams in what is a truly wide open conference defined by parity this season. Niko Scott came to play, Noruwa Agho turned in solid minutes, K.J. Matsui nailed his threes, and Miller's inside contribution was as impressive as it was unexpected.  Even Steve Egee -- whose match up against his brother Kevin provided one of the coolest moments I've seen at the Palestra in four years -- showed a good bit of talent and basketball IQ.

Bottom line: Columbia was the better team yesterday, and the more physical one at that. Glen Miller even seemed a bit stumped during the press conference, noting that Columbia wasn't "doing anything special," but just outplayed Penn. Before we read too much into last night's effort, let's see how the Quakers respond tonight against Cornell, which is coming off of a surprising loss to Princeton. Please get to the Palestra if you can tonight -- it should be a very interesting game.

Sidenote: Though the attendance at last night's game among students followed the standard Penn pattern for basketball and football games -- arrive late, leave early -- I was impressed with the large number of students that came by last night. Too bad the Quakers couldn't give them a better show. Last night happened to be the fraternity/sorority night at the Palestra, with discounted tickets for Greeks and a sorority tug-o-war contest. I'd say it was a successful promotion.

That said, and I credit Philly.com's Jon Tannenwald for furthering my observations, Penn needs to make the entire student section general admission. At tip-off last night, the upper level behind the basket was pretty full of students with GA tickets, while section 120 -- reserved for season ticket holders that did the Line -- remained pretty empty and needed to be filled up with cheerleaders. If the season ticket holders don't care enough about their tickets to show up to the game at tip-off, then let the kids that cared to show up down to the lower level. Of course, this can't be done this year because the season ticket holders already paid their money. But to resolve the problem going forward, they should make everything general admission and make the Line optional or get rid of it altogether and just do a "Midnight Madness" event like so many other schools.

As always, your thoughts are welcome. More detailed coverage of this weekend will follow in Monday's edition of the DP.

Guest Blog: Two Things to Root for (Other than the Quakers)

Noah Becker

Three facts that are necessary to understand me before we enter this relatively straight-forward named post:

1. I love lists. I will read any arbitrary group of things as long as it’s in numeric order—“The 16 Worst Plastic Surgeries,” “The 4 Handsomest Daily Pennsylvanian Sports Editors,” whatever –for several years I felt as though VH1’s programming was meant exclusively for me.

2. I hold deep seated biases. Oftentimes, I choose these biases on a whim. In presenting these biases to you, the blog reading public, I want to express that they are solely my personal flights of fancy and do not  represent the DP.

3. I love interacting with commenters. Constructive criticisms, deconstructive put downs, construction suggestions, whatever, please interact with me. Like most bloggers, I am lonely.

 

But before we get to the list, for anyone interested in what Penn’s opponents’ newspapers are saying this weekend, here’s the game preview from the Cornell Daily Sun. The money quote in the piece comes from Cornell Coach Steve Donahue saying, about Penn: “They’re still a young team. They’re one of the most talented teams we’ll play in the league, if not the most talented.”

 

The Columbia Spectator does not have a game preview up yet, but I found this article about a potential progressive semi-professionalizing of college sports interesting.

 

All that being said, here are the institutions I’m encouraging you to root for this weekend.

     1. The Princeton Tigers Men’s Basketball team:

Yes, yes, I know this is heresy. I’m the Benedict Arnold of the Buzz. But something has felt consistently wrong without Princeton in the upper echelon of Ivy League basketball. A 4-0, first place Tigers team could generate the sort of excitement for the League that has been lacking everywhere except for Ithaca.

     2. The Continuation of Phi Slamma Eggleston (I wish I had coined this term)

Ever since the La Salle game, Jack Eggleston has picked up—and immediately thrown down, two handed—the mantle as the preeminent Penn in-game dunker. It’s starting not to feel like a game unless the rim is abused by Eggleston. Additionally, rumor has it that last weekend in Hanover Cam Lewis, The Slammin’ Gauguin, joined the elite PSE fraternity attacking Dartmouth’s rims with aplomb. It would be nice to see that translate to a portrait worthy dunk or two on Jeff Foote and Jason Miller.

Beware of the Lions

Andrew Todres

For whatever reason, Columbia hasn't lived up to its athletic reputation in the past few years on the hardwood against Penn. While everyone is getting geared up for the Penn-Cornell showdown on Saturday, the Quakers could find themselves in a real jam if they overlook tomorrow night's game.

The brief rundown of the recent history, in case you forgot...

Last year, Penn got destroyed at Columbia, 74-58, thanks to the hot shooting of K.J. Matsui. Penn could not defend the three. In Philadelphia, the Quakers squeaked out with a win, 69-67, in the last game of the season.

Three seasons ago, the Lions dealt Penn its first Ivy League loss of the season. That Penn team would go on to win the Ivy League that year.

Columbia has played relatively well this season -- Niko Scott and Matsui remain viable perimeter threats, and freshman guard Norwua Agho has been coming on very strong as of late. Agho, like Ibby Jaaber and Darren Smith, is a product of the Peddie School in Hightstown, N.J.

It's easy for everyone to get absorbed in the Cornell hype, but if the Quakers can't put Columbia away tomorrow, they won't be in very high spirits heading into Saturday night. With such a young team, mental preparation is paramount. For this reason, Columbia cannot be overlooked. The Lions will come to play tomorrow, and Penn better be ready. It's not yet time to be thinking about Saturday.

Having had almost a full week to think about the collapse in the final minutes last week to Dartmouth, the Quakers should be chomping at the bit to get out on the court. And I have faith that Glen Miller has hammered these points home already.

P.S. It would be remiss of me not to acknowledge the blatant absence of Penn basketball coverage on The Buzz in the past week. There is no excuse for it, and I personally regret the lack of posts. But you're not looking for an apology -- you're looking for regular commentary on the Quakers. All I can do for my part is promise to do a better job of bringing that to you on a consistent basis. Thanks for reading.

Penn vs. Columbia Video Recap

David Gurian-Peck

Penn beats Columbia, 15-10

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Penn beat Columbia, 15-10, at Franklin Field on Saturday.

Editing: David Gurian-Peck and Rebecca Kaplan/DP
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FINAL: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Live Game Updates

Andrew Scurria here for The Buzz. Thanks for joining me for today’s home game against Columbia. It’s a sparse crowd and a sparser press corps but the air is crisp and the game is there for the taking.

FINAL: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Under pressure, Kelly threw up a wild, wobbly pass into the arms of Penn defensive back Josh Powers. Irvin took a knee; game over.

Check back with us for lots more coverage in the next DP.

Good afternoon from The Buzz.

1:22 Fourth quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

They got the stop, but now the Lions will have to march all the way down the field -- 86 yards -- in under a minute and a half with no time outs. Warm up the bus.

2:24 Fourth quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

I must confess that I have no idea what just happened. On that crucial fourth down, Columbia committed a false start penalty -- and Wilson then decided not to go for it, but instead to punt it away and count on its defense to stop Penn right away. Either way, Columbia needs a stop -- if Penn gets a first down, game over.

2:37 Fourth quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Columbia is running out of time and has to convert a fourth-and-13 to stay alive.

4:23 Fourth quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Penn put together a great drive, and wideout Kyle Derham caught a pass on a slant route that would have brought the Quakers within field-goal range. But an illegal blocking penalty -- another one! -- pushed them back, and Olson punted yet again, and yet again Columbia will start a drive from inside the 10.

11:36 fourth quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Columbia went three-and-out as well. Jon Rocholl punted from the Lions endzone, but the combination of a great kick and an illegal blocking penalty on Penn means that the Quakers start this drive at their 30.

12:40 fourth quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Yawn. Another punt, another Columbia drive starting -- this one from their own 12. Let's see if either team can make this game remotely exciting.

0:26 Third quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Wilson chooses not to go for it on fourth-and-the-length-of-a-fingernail, and karma punishes him with a short, offline punt. Penn will start at its 37. Robert Irvin is back in for Penn after almost a whole quarter with Kyle Olson under center.

4:24 Third quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Penn almost put together a nice drive, but a 15-yard pass interference penalty on wideout David Wurst killed it. Another good punt from Olson follows, and Columbia will need 85 yards to take the lead.

7:57 Third quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Once again, the Quakers couldn't make anything of the opportunity. Olson punted to inside the Lions' 20, and Columbia also then went three-and-out. And then... missed snap to the punter and.. SAFETY. What a day for Columbia so far. They outgain Penn two-to-one through two and a half quarters and have a 15-10 score and an embarassing safety to show for it.

11:44 Third quarter: Penn 13, Columbia 10

About the only thing keeping the Penn offense on the field is Shane Kelly. The Columbia quarterback just made another big mistake, underthrowing a long pass by at least six yards. It went right into the hands of Ertman, his second interception of the day. Norries Wilson, Columbia's coach, is giving Kelly a tongue-lashing as I write.

13:04 Third quarter: Penn 13, Columbia 10

After that terrible second quarter of offense, Bagnoli brought Olson, Penn's backup quarterback, in for the second half's first series. Result: another three-and-out. Olson then punted it to the Lions' 42.

Halftime Stats

First downs: Penn 3, Columbia 12. Rushing attempts-yards: Penn 16-23, Columbia 25-148. Passing yards: Penn 57, Columbia 65. Total yards: Penn 80, Columbia 213. Time of possession: Penn 12:04, Columbia 17:56.

Halftime: Penn 13, Columbia 10

A long attempt from Columbia backup quarterback M.A. Olawale falls short. Halftime.

1:10 Second quarter: Penn 13, Columbia 10

Now it's the Penn offense that is sputtering. A three-and-out forces Penn to punt, and Kyle Olson boots it to the Columbia 34. It would have been a great time for a fake, but I guess Al Bagnoli didn't want to take a chance still pretty deep in Penn territory.

2:09 Second quarter: Penn 13, Columbia 10

Kelly found Knowlin, who beat Penn's Jonathan Saelinger on the single coverage, for a six-yard touchdown pass. Nine plays and 67 yards on that drive for Columbia. Mildly impressive.

2:21 Second quarter: Penn 13, Columbia 3

Columbia's running game has suddenly come alive as the first half draws to a close. They've gone nearly the length of the field and will try to punch in a touchdown from the Penn 14 when the teams come back. Penn just took its final time-out.

8:51 Second quarter: Penn 13, Columbia 3

Penn's Bradford Blackman punched it in from a yard out on third down and Samson converted the PAT, giving the Quakers a 10-point lead. It's Blackman's first touchdown of the year.

10:10 Second quarter: Penn 6, Columbia 3

The Lions tried to run and option and Kelly pitched the ball to sophomore running back Zach Kourouma -- but Kourouma missed the ball, and Ertman (him again!) picked up the ball and returned it to the two-yard line. Penn could go up by two scores in a hurry if they convert. Terribly costly mistake for Columbia.

10:51 Second quarter: Penn 6, Columbia 3

All Penn got out of that opportunity was a 31-yard field goal, but it's a lead at least. Andrew Samson is looking good.

12:04 Second quarter: Penn 3, Columbia 3

How do I even explain what just happened? Columbia was inside its own 20, facing a second-and-14, when Kelly took the snap, turned around and ran comically headlong into a teammate he didn't know was there. The ball popped loose and now the Quakers take over at the Columbia 18.

1:56 First quarter: Penn 3, Columbia 3

The score may be tied, but Columbia's offense is not looking so hot. They have no running game whatsoever and were forced to punt after getting 12 yards into Penn territory. It went long for a touchback and Penn takes over.

1:56 First quarter: Penn 3, Columbia 3

The score may be tied, but Columbia's offense is not looking so hot. They have no running game whatsoever and were forced to punt after getting 12 yards into Penn territory. It went long for a touchback and Penn takes over.

4:49 First quarter: Penn 3, Columbia 3

Penn got the Lions' 48 on their last drive and decided to go for it on fourth-and-2. but Robert Irvin bobbled the snap, and Columbia recovered the fumble. They now take over.

6:56 First quarter: Penn 3, Columbia 3

Ertman came up with another big play -- a batted-down pass intended for Columbia's best receiver, Austin Knowlin -- and the Lions were forced to settle for a field goal. Jon Rocholl booted a line drive through from 36 away. Eight plays, 42 yards, 3:39 elapsed on that drive.

9:40 First quarter: Penn 3, Columbia 0

Penn got a 37-yard field goal by Andrew Samson out of the last drive. Now it's Columbia's turn, and it's putting together a good drive too. Kelly just completed a long pass to Taylor Joseph to the Penn 39.

12:42 First quarter: Penn 0, Columbia 0

Columbia received the opening kickoff and started with good field position, but Lions quarterback Shane Kelly threw an interception to Penn’s Britton Ertman (a terrible interception) on the second play from scrimmage. Ertman returned it 40 yards to the Columbia 30, where Penn is driving now.

Blame Amy Gutmann?

Zach Klitzman

A blog dedicated to  Columbia football -- yes, the same Columbia football team that is currently on a 12-game losing streak -- just wrote a post about Al Bagnoli and the quick turnaround of the Penn football team he masterminded in the early 1990s.

But as Quakers fans know, the last four years have brought zero Ivy League titles and three straight losing Ivy campaigns. Why the decline?  Well, according to the post, maybe Penn President Amy Gutmann is to blame.

But 2003 was the last time Penn won the football title. And that's also when current Penn president Amy Gutmann came on the scene.

Could the two incidents be related? When I asked Bagnoli last year if he felt he was getting enough support from the administration, he mostly shrugged. I get the feeling he had more to say ... but couldn't.

And then later:

For all I know, Gutmann is supporting athletics more than anyone at Penn, but the time parallels here are pretty clear. This is not only the longest championship drought for Bagnoli, his Quaker teams have had three straight losing Ivy seasons! And basketball fell off a cliff in 2007-08 for the first time in... forever.

Oh, and quarterback Robert Irvin is also to blame, says the blog, despite the fact that he was injured for all but 1.5 games last year and performed well in his sophomore season when he earned honorable mention All-Ivy honors.

Although this post is more than a little suspect -- Gutmann surely can't be blamed for Penn's football woes -- the blog, Roar Lions Roar, actually does have some legitimate information. Some links of note for Penn fans:

Will Lions WR Austin Knowlin have a big game on Saturday?

Is there a rivalry between Penn and Columbia?

Scouting Penn

Random Ivy notes

Zach Klitzman

In the past few weeks, I've had a lot of seemingly random posts, ranging from connections of the Ivy League to the NFL, to Cornell's basketball team as the best ever to Ivy League hoops previews that are two months early.

But starting today, I'm going to try something a little different. From now on, I'll collect these randomly related Ivy League and/or Penn links that aren't time sensitive and post them each Wednesday. And any story with a more direct news link, such as Cornell's Adam Gore tearing his ACL or analysis of the just-released men's basketball schedule, will get posted ASAP.

So without further ado, here's the first couple of links:

1) In honor of Yankee Stadium closing Sunday night, Jim Caple, of ESPN.com's Page 2, ranked "America's 100 most important sports venues." The title is pretty important, because Caple specifically states it's neither the best venues nor his favorites, and it's not just stadiums (ESPN's headquarters comes in at No. 10).

Penn gets on the list twice. The Palestra comes in at No. 34, while Franklin Field makes the cut at No. 71. (The Palestra actually gets one of the few photos.) ESPN praising Penn athletic facilities isn't anything new, but it's still nice to see our stadiums mentioned on the most-read sports website. The only other Ivy venue is the Yale bowl, and Penn is one of just two universities to have both on-campus football and basketball venues listed (Tennessee is the other).

2) This might be a month old, but if you're sad that the Penn football team just lost its fifth overtime game in its last 16 contests, just remember, at least you don't root for Columbia.